Blacks commit 60% of ALL violent crime — but only 14% of the population

[Greg]

Statistics clearly show that Blacks commit about 60% of all violent crime in America despite them being 14% of the population. Why is this? No family structure and a community that condones young girls having babies. 
Other minorities that come to this country without money and without speaking our language still surpass blacks. Its amazing !!!! 
Maybe black women need to find a moral compass and black men have to stop committing violent crime and serious drug offenses?? I think so !

Lets stop making excuses and start acting like mature adults. By the way, using some big words doesnt do anything either. We need to take personal responsibility. Lets stop blaming white people especially since they invented almost everything that makes our lives better.

[Pioneer1]

 

3 hours ago, Greg said:

 
Other minorities that come to this country without money and without speaking our language still surpass blacks. Its amazing !!!! 

A couple of great questions would be......

1. Who's LETTING these minorities into the country???

2. And who's GIVING them the loans and licenses to open up businesses when they aren't even citizens of this nation?


This is relatively new in history and actually unprecedented.

At no other time in U.S. history prior to the 1970s did you hear of immigrants being allowed to flood into the United States buying property and opening up businesses and being able to send money back to their native countries.  They JUST started allowing it 40 years ago.  I wonder why?

 

[Greg]

The FBI reports don’t lie. Blacks commit 60% of all violent crime.

Every single immigrant that comes to our country and can’t even speak the language somehow finds a way to succeed even with little or no money. But Blacks just can’t seem to get it together. 

[ProfD]

If the FBI knows who's committing violent crimes, they should do a better job of coordinating with local law enforcement to stop it.

 

But, I guess it's no different than the FBI knowing who could potentially be a mass shooter.  They don't stop them either.  

 

Crime fuels the American economy.  Law enforcement, courts, hospitals, prisons, etc., benefit from it. 

[daniellegfny]

On 7/10/2022 at 10:09 AM, Greg said:

Statistics clearly show that Blacks commit about 60% of all violent crime in America despite them being 14% of the population

Please provide the source of those “statistics”. A false narrative is being subtly  perpetrated by use of numbers combined in a misleading manner.

On 7/10/2022 at 11:20 PM, Greg said:

Every single immigrant that comes to our country and can’t even speak the language somehow finds a way to succeed even with little or no money. But Blacks just can’t seem to get it together. 

Organized crime is the common denominator in each of those migrants groups. Provide the link to the FBI stats.

On 7/11/2022 at 9:52 AM, ProfD said:

Crime fuels the American economy.  Law enforcement, courts, hospitals, prisons, etc., benefit from it. 

Crime is a cancer to civilized society. While various systems are in place to deal with crime, the essence of the situation is the battle between morality and natural law.

[ProfD]

5 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

Crime is a cancer to civilized society. While various systems are in place to deal with crime, the essence of the situation is the battle between morality and natural law.

IMO, crime is a by-product of a capitalistic society built on racism.   

 

A redistribution of wealth and resources would reduce crime significantly.

 

Instead, those various systems put in place to deal with crime fuel the economy. 

 

Greed and self-interests makes it harder for natural law to prevail especially in a racist capitalistic society.

[daniellegfny]

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

IMO, crime is a by-product of a capitalistic society built on racism.   

You have a poor opinion. Crime occurs in all societies. It’s the violation of Laws!

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

You have a poor opinion. Crime occurs in all societies. It’s the violation of Laws!

You're entitled to your opinion too.

 

Crime is higher in America than most any other country on the planet. No secret how America was built. 

[daniellegfny]

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

Crime is higher in America than most any other country on the planet.

That doesn’t negate that there is no place or society without crime. Crime is the byproduct of having laws. A lawless society is one where criminals rule unchecked.

[Greg]

A bunch of black teenage girls just murdered a defenseless 74 year old man. Video shows them laughing as they are slaughtering him. This murder is included in the 60% . No compassion and no impulse control.

[daniellegfny]

1 hour ago, Greg said:

74 year old man. Video shows them laughing as they are slaughtering him. This murder is included in the 60% . No compassion and no impulse control.

White people have been doing that to Black people for hundreds of years. Your statement is intentionally trying to perpetuate a false narrative.

[ProfD]

45 minutes ago, daniellegfny said:

Your statement is intentionally trying to perpetuate a false narrative

You've been away for a little while. Check out his post history and you'll get an idea of what we're dealing with here.

5 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

That doesn’t negate that there is no place or society without crime. Crime is the byproduct of having laws. A lawless society is one where criminals rule unchecked.

There are places where crime is so insignificant that it's negligible. Look no further than Japan. It's not because they have a ton of laws. It's their culture that keeps crime very low. 

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

If the FBI knows who's committing violent crimes, they should do a better job of coordinating with local law enforcement to stop it.

 

In the United States, the agenda of most law enforcement agencies is not to STOP crime but to CONTROL it...and keep it in certain areas.

Crime and the peripheral services that revolve around it are a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR business in the United States.  If they actuallys stopped crime or reduced it to only 10%....a lot of cops, lawyers, judges, ect...would be out of business and looking for a new career move.

 

Just like the mission of the CDC isn't to STOP diseases but to CONTROL them....the job of most cops isn't to STOP crime but to control it and contain it.

 

 

 

There are places where crime is so insignificant that it's negligible. Look no further than Japan. It's not because they have a ton of laws. It's their culture that keeps crime very low

The interesting thing about Japan is how INTERNALIZING they are.

 

Rather than reacting violently against others, they often INTERNALIZE their frustration and either commit suicide or harm themselves and torture themselves in other ways.

Check out how so many of them set themselves on fire infront of a government building in protest of a particular action.  

 

 

 

 

Coggins

 

 A lawless society is one where criminals rule unchecked.

 

Actually a "lawless" society is one where criminals don't exist...and neither does crime.

If there are no laws, then they simply don't get broken or enforced.

[ProfD]

@Pioneer1, you're absolutely correct...there is no incentive i.e. money in putting a stop to crime in America. But, to control it is a business that fuels America.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

It's all scientific.
They have sociologists and social psychologists who have been studying this shit for DECADES.
They know what causes crime....violent and non violent.  And they know how to PREVENT it......if they want to.  They don't want to.

Just keep it from spilling over into certain communities OR keep certain crimes in certain communities.

For the past couple of years you've seen an increase in little children getting shot in inner cities around the nation. 
That's no accident.  They caused that increase because for decades Black folks had been going around TRUTHFULLY but FOOLISHLY bragging about how atleast they did't kill children and old people....so the racists who control society decided to eliminate THAT "good point" and now killing of children has become almost common in the hood since 2020.

[daniellegfny]

On 7/16/2022 at 11:26 AM, ProfD said:

insignificant that it's negligible. Look no further than Japan. It's not because they have a ton of laws. It's their culture that keeps crime very low. 

They have crime. And they are capitalist.

[Greg]

Honestly, I think the fbi stats under report Black Violent crime. I think its much higher than 60%.

[ProfD]

The FBI isn't underreporting stats. They're busy up to their coffee and doughnuts in trying to get a bead on the next mass shooter. 

[daniellegfny]

On 7/18/2022 at 5:16 PM, Greg said:

Honestly, I think the fbi stats under report Black Violent crime. I think its much higher than 60%.

All crime is under reported. The label “Black” is loaded. Crime is crime. 

[Greg]

Blacks commit  more violent crime than anyone else and its a fact we all have to face. Its due to poor impulse control and lack of family values and structure in our very dysfunctional black community.

[daniellegfny]

6 hours ago, Greg said:

Blacks commit  more violent crime than anyone else and its a fact we all have to face. Its due to poor impulse control and lack of family values and structure in our very dysfunctional black community

You are really a troll. That’s what the media is pushing but it’s not true. That segment of the black community that commits crime is the same segment of all communities. 
 

The biggest challenge to your thesis is that you lack proper record keeping and treatment of Blacks by the criminal Justice system. You also don’t have any mechanism to exclude repeat offenders. 
 

I also saw far more white people causing violent and destructive actions during 2020 than Black people. The difference is in how arrest and prosecution were made.

 

Being a Republican I hear how the narrative is being delivered that there is something wrong with Black Culture. But that’s a lie. There’s nothing wrong with Black culture, you are only focusing on the wrong Blacks. 

[daniellegfny]

On 7/16/2022 at 10:03 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Actually a "lawless" society is one where criminals don't exist...and neither does crime.

If there are no laws, then they simply don't get broken or enforced.

Keep believing that. We have a sense of law because our creator has established laws.

[Pioneer1]

Coggins

The Universal laws are NOT synonymous with the laws of most nations, especially Western nations.

In nature, you stock up on as much food as you can.
In this society, if you go to the store and stock up on food without paying you may end up arrested and in jail because the "laws" don't allow it.

 

[daniellegfny]

46 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

without paying

Is the operative word. In a Capitialist society you can stock up on as much as you can afford.

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

In a Capitialist society you can stock up on as much as you can afford.

The downside is that folks shouldn't go hungry or starve because they can't afford food especially concerning how much we throw away. 

[Greg]

Its astounding to me that the media and black leaders ignore all the violence by blacks. You can take the guns away but you are still left with violent thugs who will use other weapons. A violent thug is a violent thug with or without a gun. 
Removing guns doesn’t change their violent dna .

[Xeon]

"...crime is a by-product of a capitalistic society built on racism.."

 

Really? Crime existed BEFORE capitalism. Explain that......

[Troy]

This conversation is one of the most popular conversations on our forums over the last 30 days -- viewed over 9K times and more than 7,500 unique visitors. 

[frankster]

On 12/27/2022 at 2:48 PM, Troy said:

This conversation is one of the most popular conversations on our forums over the last 30 days -- viewed over 9K times and more than 7,500 unique visitors. 

This is Main Thread That motivated me to Join this Forum..

[Troy]

Really @frankster?   Given the popularity of this thread, why do you think no one else (that I know of) has contributed to this conversation or joined the forum?  Do you remember how you discovered the conversation? 

 

Back to the conversation which, surprisingly I have not contributed to...

 

On 7/10/2022 at 11:20 PM, Greg said:

The FBI reports don’t lie. Blacks commit 60% of all violent crime.

 

"The FBI reports don't lie."  That is laughable on its face, as there are documented instances of the FBI, indeed all government law enforcement agencies, lying.

 

 "Blacks commit 60% of all violent crime." I could not find any stats to support this statement, but we'd need a definition of violent crime if we include homicides and assault, I would not wager that this is not a "true" stat.  

 

But we know a few things about law enforcement in America. 

 

The Black community is hyper-policed, so if there is a bar fight The Brother will get arrested and convicted much more quickly than a white boy.  White people are arrested and convicted less frequently for all offenses.

 

We also know there is a correlation between poverty and crime.  This country with its history of racism has created an environment in which Black people are disproportionately living in poverty.  If we controlled for poverty alone I suspect violent crime rates would be comparable -- even ignoring the fact white get off more frequently.

 

Throwing around stats without context is misleading at best and dangerous at worse.

[Chevdove]

On 12/27/2022 at 2:48 PM, Troy said:

This conversation is one of the most popular conversations on our forums over the last 30 days -- viewed over 9K times and more than 7,500 unique visitors. 

 

I guess the title is catchy. 

That's is really sad that a post like this would get this much traction.

This is revealing about America too. 

 

[richardmurray]

@Chevdove yeah, media in the usa has been touting negativity for longer than anyone in this site has been alive, that has created the environment today. we all may laugh, but positivity isn't unimportant in media and when negativity is the norm is has consequence down the road

[frankster]

18 hours ago, Troy said:

Really @frankster?   Given the popularity of this thread, why do you think no one else (that I know of) has contributed to this conversation or joined the forum?  Do you remember how you discovered the conversation? 

I think I was trying to find links that proves Black Communities are Over Policed which in turns biases or slants Arrests Records  as well as that African Americans and Euro Americans are prosecuted differently for the same Charges.

 

18 hours ago, Troy said:

 

 

[Pioneer1]

One of the problems I have with those stats is that they want to literally make things a "Black-n-White" issue while totally ignoring the disturbingly high rate of violent crime committed by Latinos....especially illegal ones.....on eachother.

I used to live in Arizona and Mexican migrants BUTCHERED eachother every night after getting drunk, yet their stabbings and slashings and shooting barely even made the news unless it was related to other events.

It's the same with the gang banging in places like L.A. and Chicago where the Latino gangs actually out number the Black gangs and they are more violent towards eachother, but the media ignores it.

[KENNETH]

On 7/10/2022 at 10:09 AM, Greg said:

Statistics clearly show that Blacks commit about 60% of all violent crime in America despite them being 14% of the population. Why is this? No family structure and a community that condones young girls having babies. 
Other minorities that come to this country without money and without speaking our language still surpass blacks. Its amazing !!!! 
Maybe black women need to find a moral compass and black men have to stop committing violent crime and serious drug offenses?? I think so !

Lets stop making excuses and start acting like mature adults. By the way, using some big words doesnt do anything either. We need to take personal responsibility. Lets stop blaming white people especially since they invented almost everything that makes our lives better.

 

Here's the thing about race and crime : 

 

When it comes to blacks and whites committing crime in large numbers we never focus solely on policing and punishment for whites. In their case that is only one component and people know it's limited. We focus on finding and eliminating root causes which often involves social, economic, and political reforms.

 

However for black crime the response is foremost about policing and punishing. There's also an emphasis to some degree on moralizing with exhortations to self help and personal responsibility. What this systemically racist and economically unjust society doesn't do is remedy the social and economic conditions the poorest blacks inhabit. For us it's all about poliice and prison.

 

[Stefan]

Discussion titles such as the one for this subject constitute click bait and will result in a whole lot of generalizing.