Greg Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Statistics clearly show that Blacks commit about 60% of all violent crime in America despite them being 14% of the population. Why is this? No family structure and a community that condones young girls having babies. Other minorities that come to this country without money and without speaking our language still surpass blacks. Its amazing !!!! Maybe black women need to find a moral compass and black men have to stop committing violent crime and serious drug offenses?? I think so ! Lets stop making excuses and start acting like mature adults. By the way, using some big words doesnt do anything either. We need to take personal responsibility. Lets stop blaming white people especially since they invented almost everything that makes our lives better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Greg said: Other minorities that come to this country without money and without speaking our language still surpass blacks. Its amazing !!!! A couple of great questions would be...... 1. Who's LETTING these minorities into the country??? 2. And who's GIVING them the loans and licenses to open up businesses when they aren't even citizens of this nation? This is relatively new in history and actually unprecedented. At no other time in U.S. history prior to the 1970s did you hear of immigrants being allowed to flood into the United States buying property and opening up businesses and being able to send money back to their native countries. They JUST started allowing it 40 years ago. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 The FBI reports don’t lie. Blacks commit 60% of all violent crime. Every single immigrant that comes to our country and can’t even speak the language somehow finds a way to succeed even with little or no money. But Blacks just can’t seem to get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 If the FBI knows who's committing violent crimes, they should do a better job of coordinating with local law enforcement to stop it. But, I guess it's no different than the FBI knowing who could potentially be a mass shooter. They don't stop them either. Crime fuels the American economy. Law enforcement, courts, hospitals, prisons, etc., benefit from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 10:09 AM, Greg said: Statistics clearly show that Blacks commit about 60% of all violent crime in America despite them being 14% of the population Please provide the source of those “statistics”. A false narrative is being subtly perpetrated by use of numbers combined in a misleading manner. On 7/10/2022 at 11:20 PM, Greg said: Every single immigrant that comes to our country and can’t even speak the language somehow finds a way to succeed even with little or no money. But Blacks just can’t seem to get it together. Organized crime is the common denominator in each of those migrants groups. Provide the link to the FBI stats. On 7/11/2022 at 9:52 AM, ProfD said: Crime fuels the American economy. Law enforcement, courts, hospitals, prisons, etc., benefit from it. Crime is a cancer to civilized society. While various systems are in place to deal with crime, the essence of the situation is the battle between morality and natural law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 5 hours ago, daniellegfny said: Crime is a cancer to civilized society. While various systems are in place to deal with crime, the essence of the situation is the battle between morality and natural law. IMO, crime is a by-product of a capitalistic society built on racism. A redistribution of wealth and resources would reduce crime significantly. Instead, those various systems put in place to deal with crime fuel the economy. Greed and self-interests makes it harder for natural law to prevail especially in a racist capitalistic society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 7 hours ago, ProfD said: IMO, crime is a by-product of a capitalistic society built on racism. You have a poor opinion. Crime occurs in all societies. It’s the violation of Laws! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, daniellegfny said: You have a poor opinion. Crime occurs in all societies. It’s the violation of Laws! You're entitled to your opinion too. Crime is higher in America than most any other country on the planet. No secret how America was built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 7 hours ago, ProfD said: Crime is higher in America than most any other country on the planet. That doesn’t negate that there is no place or society without crime. Crime is the byproduct of having laws. A lawless society is one where criminals rule unchecked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 A bunch of black teenage girls just murdered a defenseless 74 year old man. Video shows them laughing as they are slaughtering him. This murder is included in the 60% . No compassion and no impulse control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Greg said: 74 year old man. Video shows them laughing as they are slaughtering him. This murder is included in the 60% . No compassion and no impulse control. White people have been doing that to Black people for hundreds of years. Your statement is intentionally trying to perpetuate a false narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, daniellegfny said: Your statement is intentionally trying to perpetuate a false narrative You've been away for a little while. Check out his post history and you'll get an idea of what we're dealing with here. 5 hours ago, daniellegfny said: That doesn’t negate that there is no place or society without crime. Crime is the byproduct of having laws. A lawless society is one where criminals rule unchecked. There are places where crime is so insignificant that it's negligible. Look no further than Japan. It's not because they have a ton of laws. It's their culture that keeps crime very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 ProfD If the FBI knows who's committing violent crimes, they should do a better job of coordinating with local law enforcement to stop it. In the United States, the agenda of most law enforcement agencies is not to STOP crime but to CONTROL it...and keep it in certain areas. Crime and the peripheral services that revolve around it are a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR business in the United States. If they actuallys stopped crime or reduced it to only 10%....a lot of cops, lawyers, judges, ect...would be out of business and looking for a new career move. Just like the mission of the CDC isn't to STOP diseases but to CONTROL them....the job of most cops isn't to STOP crime but to control it and contain it. There are places where crime is so insignificant that it's negligible. Look no further than Japan. It's not because they have a ton of laws. It's their culture that keeps crime very low The interesting thing about Japan is how INTERNALIZING they are. Rather than reacting violently against others, they often INTERNALIZE their frustration and either commit suicide or harm themselves and torture themselves in other ways. Check out how so many of them set themselves on fire infront of a government building in protest of a particular action. Coggins A lawless society is one where criminals rule unchecked. Actually a "lawless" society is one where criminals don't exist...and neither does crime. If there are no laws, then they simply don't get broken or enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 @Pioneer1, you're absolutely correct...there is no incentive i.e. money in putting a stop to crime in America. But, to control it is a business that fuels America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 ProfD It's all scientific. They have sociologists and social psychologists who have been studying this shit for DECADES. They know what causes crime....violent and non violent. And they know how to PREVENT it......if they want to. They don't want to. Just keep it from spilling over into certain communities OR keep certain crimes in certain communities. For the past couple of years you've seen an increase in little children getting shot in inner cities around the nation. That's no accident. They caused that increase because for decades Black folks had been going around TRUTHFULLY but FOOLISHLY bragging about how atleast they did't kill children and old people....so the racists who control society decided to eliminate THAT "good point" and now killing of children has become almost common in the hood since 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 11:26 AM, ProfD said: insignificant that it's negligible. Look no further than Japan. It's not because they have a ton of laws. It's their culture that keeps crime very low. They have crime. And they are capitalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Honestly, I think the fbi stats under report Black Violent crime. I think its much higher than 60%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 The FBI isn't underreporting stats. They're busy up to their coffee and doughnuts in trying to get a bead on the next mass shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 5:16 PM, Greg said: Honestly, I think the fbi stats under report Black Violent crime. I think its much higher than 60%. All crime is under reported. The label “Black” is loaded. Crime is crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 Blacks commit more violent crime than anyone else and its a fact we all have to face. Its due to poor impulse control and lack of family values and structure in our very dysfunctional black community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Greg said: Blacks commit more violent crime than anyone else and its a fact we all have to face. Its due to poor impulse control and lack of family values and structure in our very dysfunctional black community You are really a troll. That’s what the media is pushing but it’s not true. That segment of the black community that commits crime is the same segment of all communities. The biggest challenge to your thesis is that you lack proper record keeping and treatment of Blacks by the criminal Justice system. You also don’t have any mechanism to exclude repeat offenders. I also saw far more white people causing violent and destructive actions during 2020 than Black people. The difference is in how arrest and prosecution were made. Being a Republican I hear how the narrative is being delivered that there is something wrong with Black Culture. But that’s a lie. There’s nothing wrong with Black culture, you are only focusing on the wrong Blacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 10:03 PM, Pioneer1 said: Actually a "lawless" society is one where criminals don't exist...and neither does crime. If there are no laws, then they simply don't get broken or enforced. Keep believing that. We have a sense of law because our creator has established laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Coggins The Universal laws are NOT synonymous with the laws of most nations, especially Western nations. In nature, you stock up on as much food as you can. In this society, if you go to the store and stock up on food without paying you may end up arrested and in jail because the "laws" don't allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniellegfny Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said: without paying Is the operative word. In a Capitialist society you can stock up on as much as you can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, daniellegfny said: In a Capitialist society you can stock up on as much as you can afford. The downside is that folks shouldn't go hungry or starve because they can't afford food especially concerning how much we throw away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Its astounding to me that the media and black leaders ignore all the violence by blacks. You can take the guns away but you are still left with violent thugs who will use other weapons. A violent thug is a violent thug with or without a gun. Removing guns doesn’t change their violent dna . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeon Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 "...crime is a by-product of a capitalistic society built on racism.." Really? Crime existed BEFORE capitalism. Explain that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 This conversation is one of the most popular conversations on our forums over the last 30 days -- viewed over 9K times and more than 7,500 unique visitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankster Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 12/27/2022 at 2:48 PM, Troy said: This conversation is one of the most popular conversations on our forums over the last 30 days -- viewed over 9K times and more than 7,500 unique visitors. This is Main Thread That motivated me to Join this Forum.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 Really @frankster? Given the popularity of this thread, why do you think no one else (that I know of) has contributed to this conversation or joined the forum? Do you remember how you discovered the conversation? Back to the conversation which, surprisingly I have not contributed to... On 7/10/2022 at 11:20 PM, Greg said: The FBI reports don’t lie. Blacks commit 60% of all violent crime. "The FBI reports don't lie." That is laughable on its face, as there are documented instances of the FBI, indeed all government law enforcement agencies, lying. "Blacks commit 60% of all violent crime." I could not find any stats to support this statement, but we'd need a definition of violent crime if we include homicides and assault, I would not wager that this is not a "true" stat. But we know a few things about law enforcement in America. The Black community is hyper-policed, so if there is a bar fight The Brother will get arrested and convicted much more quickly than a white boy. White people are arrested and convicted less frequently for all offenses. We also know there is a correlation between poverty and crime. This country with its history of racism has created an environment in which Black people are disproportionately living in poverty. If we controlled for poverty alone I suspect violent crime rates would be comparable -- even ignoring the fact white get off more frequently. Throwing around stats without context is misleading at best and dangerous at worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevdove Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 12/27/2022 at 2:48 PM, Troy said: This conversation is one of the most popular conversations on our forums over the last 30 days -- viewed over 9K times and more than 7,500 unique visitors. I guess the title is catchy. That's is really sad that a post like this would get this much traction. This is revealing about America too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmurray Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 @Chevdove yeah, media in the usa has been touting negativity for longer than anyone in this site has been alive, that has created the environment today. we all may laugh, but positivity isn't unimportant in media and when negativity is the norm is has consequence down the road 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankster Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 18 hours ago, Troy said: Really @frankster? Given the popularity of this thread, why do you think no one else (that I know of) has contributed to this conversation or joined the forum? Do you remember how you discovered the conversation? I think I was trying to find links that proves Black Communities are Over Policed which in turns biases or slants Arrests Records as well as that African Americans and Euro Americans are prosecuted differently for the same Charges. 18 hours ago, Troy said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer1 Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 One of the problems I have with those stats is that they want to literally make things a "Black-n-White" issue while totally ignoring the disturbingly high rate of violent crime committed by Latinos....especially illegal ones.....on eachother. I used to live in Arizona and Mexican migrants BUTCHERED eachother every night after getting drunk, yet their stabbings and slashings and shooting barely even made the news unless it was related to other events. It's the same with the gang banging in places like L.A. and Chicago where the Latino gangs actually out number the Black gangs and they are more violent towards eachother, but the media ignores it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KENNETH Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 10:09 AM, Greg said: Statistics clearly show that Blacks commit about 60% of all violent crime in America despite them being 14% of the population. Why is this? No family structure and a community that condones young girls having babies. Other minorities that come to this country without money and without speaking our language still surpass blacks. Its amazing !!!! Maybe black women need to find a moral compass and black men have to stop committing violent crime and serious drug offenses?? I think so ! Lets stop making excuses and start acting like mature adults. By the way, using some big words doesnt do anything either. We need to take personal responsibility. Lets stop blaming white people especially since they invented almost everything that makes our lives better. Here's the thing about race and crime : When it comes to blacks and whites committing crime in large numbers we never focus solely on policing and punishment for whites. In their case that is only one component and people know it's limited. We focus on finding and eliminating root causes which often involves social, economic, and political reforms. However for black crime the response is foremost about policing and punishing. There's also an emphasis to some degree on moralizing with exhortations to self help and personal responsibility. What this systemically racist and economically unjust society doesn't do is remedy the social and economic conditions the poorest blacks inhabit. For us it's all about poliice and prison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 Discussion titles such as the one for this subject constitute click bait and will result in a whole lot of generalizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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