Pioneer1

You have to be delusional TO A CERTAIN DEGREE in order to really achieve Success in this world. You can't be too stuck in the current "here and now" or focus only on what you THINK is likely or probable. You have to be a dreamer and dream big and actually believe those dreams can and will be accomplished. This is important for intelligent and righteous Black people to understand and accept.

Something wicked is going on. So many people now a days are coming out of prison with those tattoos and shit all over their face with stars, crosses, and other symbols. They all have meanings to them. Some of those symbols are surely evil and demonic and probably encourages them to commit demonic acts.

I was always told that wisdom comes with age. I was always told that as I got older, I would become wiser. This is so true........ Just like I no longer advocate for blanket "Black Unity"; I no longer advocate for all Black people to own their own "businesses" or even stop working for White folks. It's about degrees and levels. It is IDEAL for a Black person to have their own successful business, but if they can't run a successful business then it's best for them to work for another Black person who IS running one. And if they can't find a successful Black business to work for and the bills need to be paid, it's best to go ahead and work for White folks if they're paying you right. It's better than being homeless or doing something demeaning for survival.

ProfD Right. She's entitled her VGQ...whatever the reason(s) for choices . She's entitled to it, but I'm also entitled to CRITIQUE it. If her way of dealing with racism is to marry a White man OR not deal with it at all, that's her right. I wouldn't take that away from her. Infact, I'd LIKE to know which women prefer White men over me so I know who I should help and who I shouldn't. I love, protect, and help the women who have MY back. No hate involved. Straight up business. That's been hapoening for 100s of years now. Even within our own race. Burnt chocolate n8gglets chasing high yellow women to have better looking children It's a sickness that needs to be "conditioned" out of our people with a program of self esteem and self respect. Women don't make deals with men to whom they're attracted. Lol....I hear (read) you. Actually, it depends on HOW attracted they are to the man. A lot of women will find a man attractive and all she want from him is just his attention and love. But her friends and family will DEMAND that she get more out of him and that's where the "dealing" often takes place. This is especially true with a lot of women from non-Western cultures where the men are expected to offer a certain amount of provision in exchange for a woman's "love". Most women would prefer to have a relationship of some kind rather than be alone. Facts. I would say this is the case with human beings in general both female AND male. Even if the relationship is strictly platonic or intimate but non-sexual. We crave that human interaction. We know how the laws would be written in Pioneer1-Land Come on man, I've made it clear on a number of occasions that although I DO NOT like White men having sexual contact and loving on White men, I wouldn't prevent it. If I were king and had total authority...I wouldn't make laws against it, lol. Why? Because again, I want to KNOW which women are down for me and other Black men and which ones are not. I also like the challenge of CHANGING Black women (especially African women) who were infatuated with White men TO falling in love with Black men by showing them a better side of us that what they've been conditioned to believe in the media. I personally don't believe Black men are trying hard enough to overcome the propaganda being formulated against us by their racists. Especially with regards to foreign women. Many bruthaz think it's cool to "not care" what other people think about them, not knowing the damage that is being done while they are indifferent to it. We NEED women. Not just physically but psychologically....to motivate us to be better. How motivating is it to hear women of YOUR group calling other races of men "cute", getting on the internet proclaiming how happy they are to be with them, and even encouraging OTHER women to do the same? What kind of self-hating madness is that?

Why would White folks want a race war when they're already on top and ruling? That's like Trump calling for a RE-election....lol. Chev I just don't want to believe that humans can be that insanely evil to do this. One of the biggest miscalculations people often make is measuring humanity by THEIR own conscience. Because THEY wouldn't and couldn't ruthlessly torture somebody and chop them up and but them in a suitcase, eat a big meal afterwards, and sleep comfortably that same night with the body balled up next to them in bed...they can't believe ANYBODY could actually do this. Although I haven't seen anything that gruesome, I've been around enough people to know that some human beings are capable of almost anything so I don't put anything past them. Especially when they're under the influence of substances that open up their minds to spiritual manipulation.

Cynique Why bother sending messages to Cynique? Because aka Contrarian...her alter ego....responds to them. richardmurray More black people own business in the usa today than ever before , holistically. But, too many black businesses fail in the usa as well, you have to think more on the financial reality of the industry you are in. It can't be village save me. But what are the NATURE of these so-called "Black businesses" that exist today? 100 years ago a Black business usually consisted of a 4 walled shop where an actual product or service was offered. Like a grocery store, barber shop, sign making company, tailor shop, etc.... A lot of the so-called businesses today are online and rarely involve manufacturing physical products. Basically shuffling money around and participating in financial and credit based schemes like bitcoin and the like. No actual "civilization building" skills like carpentry, engineering, agriculture, and the like are being passed along from one generation to the next like they were during Reconstruction. When I look at some of these old pictures I remember that old Pete Rock & CL Smooth line: "I stive to be live cuz I got no choice And run my own business like my Aunt Joyce"

I IMMEDIATELY recognized that by the sheer wit of some of the observations....lol. But I'm going to be real with yall. That "CON-gress being the antithesis of PRO-gress"............... Genius I'm going to be using that one quite a bit...lol.

ProfD If she wants a ring and Black men don't come through with it...she will be happy with the man who does. Maybe it's not the RING that she actually wants. Maybe it's a White man. Maybe it's mixed children. I said MAYBE.....because I don't know for sure one way or the other. Women don't have to marry them though. There must be something ielse in it for them. Thus my thread about "mejorando la raza" and the desire to leave one's own race or ethnicity for one PERCEIVED to be better. I'm not saying this is the case with Serena. However we've all known Black people who vocally express their fondness for light skinned babies with curly or wavy hair or what they call "pretty" babies. And I've known some...male and female...who purposefully and shamelessly decided to mate with White and non-Black people TO produce those type of offspring. Fuck tangibles. That alone.....being "closer" to Whiteness....is what they really value more than wealth! Tired of giving up the snatch box for fun without a commitment. Some women DON'T get tired of it though, lol. There are many here in the United States, but in Canada and Europe there a LOT of women past 40 who have never been married and have no desire to. They just want to date and remain single OR alone. As you rightly pointed out, they don't need a man to be happy. A lot of women are about that life and not about "making deals" with the coochie...lol. That's a mentality that comes from being brought up to believe you SHOULD get married or make a man "work" for sexual access to your body. In some countries, that mentality isn't as prevalent. Over time, for any number of reasons, it takes more than s8x to sustain a long-term relationship Facts. However, as we discussed before....many women AREN'T looking for a long term relationship. Some men believe it is their right to have s8x with a woman of any group. I believe in America it IS a man's right. Not his right to FORCE himself on any woman, but his right to BE with any unmarried woman who desires to be with him. And the same for the women. That doesn't mean I have to LIKE it though, lol. Grown azz women are not being tricked or manipulated into having s8x with men. I consider brainwashing and other tactics that White racists use in the media and in society in general to condition the minds of so many women to "love" them and see them as ideal and superior to other men....a form of manipulation. The very image of a White Jesus as a "savior" is part of that manipulation. When you grow up seeing THIS image on your wall and being told how wonderful and great this man is and how he saves you from all of your problems, your subconscious automatically attributes these characteristics to every man who LOOK like him. You grow up with an automatic love for and faith in White men and don't even know where it comes from. Chev I know. But I didn't.....now leave ME alone.......

Over the years I've become very careful advocating for "Black Unity". Because there are some Black people I have absolutely NO intention or desire to unite with. If experience tells us we can't get along with every member of our own families, what makes us think we can get along with every member of our race?

ProfD We don't see white women criticizing white men in public. They do it to a certain extent but they don't specifically call out "White men". They criticize "men" in general and it's almost a given in their community that they're talking about White men because they simply aren't focused on other races of men. I was watching a show with Indian women criticizing Indian men and they called them out by race. Same with Ethiopians, Koreans, and other non-White groups. These women were asking what's wrong with "---- men" and why are "---- men" so oppressive or sexually uptight or aggressive? These other groups compare their men to White men, as if he's the standard to measure men by. There's more constructive avenues for dealing with emotional issues. Bashing Black men won't solve anything in her life oele society at large. I guess she's just blowing off steam....lol.

aka Contradiction Take it from a 92 year old whose been around the corner a coupla of times No thanks, I won't "take it" because I don't want it...lol. Age aside... I'm sure ANY woman who's been on the corner and around the block a few times has "something" to give a man...lol. Probably something he doesn't want and may need a prescription to get rid of...lol. Keep it. Mel How beautiful that would have been! I guess you don't know how I long for a big family! ....yeah, but not with the ADAMS FAMILY. ((snap snap)) do you know we had actual wedding crashers at the celebration? Gurl, SHUT THE F....front door!!!! Say what??? Tell us all about the throw down over in Chi-town...lol.

Cynique Yep, there you are with your long black tail, I'm kinda on the light side, so my "tail" is more of a deep brown than black. But some ladies like the contrast....lol. Go crawl back in your hole and lick your wounds while I eat your false scenario for lunch. "long tail" "hole" "lick" Man..... You got all types of Freudian slips slipping out your mouth today....lol. Did one of your children slip some GINSENG in your tea this morning or something???? "Oh me....Oh my...." ProfD White supremacists loved the Nation of Islam because that was fewer black men they had to worry about. Some have made that argument. That the Nation of Islam took many of the most militant "down to ride" Black men and made them less violent and Revolutionary and focused them on religion. It may be true in a few cases, but in vast majority of cases where violent and angry men entered the Nation of Islam...that violence and anger was aimed at OTHER Black men, not the racists. The curse is that Black folks haven't codified and commodified their natural gifts and talents and greatness. Is that a "curse" or a character flaw? To this day, Black folks are still selling themselves short when it comes to wealth building. For the sake of argument..... Consider the possibility that in the majority of these cases....those who actually CAN....DO.

Such language. Do your grandchildren know you use that kind of language?

Well..... Did you call HER a freaky little elf? If you did, I can understand WHY...lol. Better be glad she's still even talking to you.....lol.

ProfD The hilarity continues between @aka Contrarian and @Pioneer1 going at it. Picture a cat, playing around and having fun with a little annoying mouse..... Right. I believe people trying to fit in one way or another is the main motivation moreso than self-hate. This is natural. People generally want to blend in and be apart of the community they're in because being seen as "other" or "different" often makes you a target. However I've learned that "standing out" and being seen as different can also be a benefit and get you POSITIVE attention. Especially during times of crisis and confusion where people are looking for beacons of light in the darkness. The Nation of Islam under Minister Farrakhan were a little more relaxed when it came to kicking it with the bruthaz in the neighborhood and associating with Hiphop figures. But the Nation of Islam under Elijah Muhammad back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s were VERY strict and made it a point for it's members to "stand out" from other Black people and be striking examples of cleanliness and morality for our people to look up to. Actually, one of the things that is so attractive about Black Americans is that unlike nearly all the other ethnic groups (except maybe CERTAIN Latinos born and raised here) we often GO OUT OF OUR WAY to be different than White Americans in our talk, dress, and behavior. That's where much of our music and style comes from.

aka Contradiction Why arent you calling out Troy and Chevdove and Richard and Harry and Frankster and Uberquist for not responding to Mel's good news the way you imagine they should have? Because I didn't have any expectations or imaginations about how they "should" have responded, in the first place. Everybody reacts to good news and bad news differently, it's not up to ME to decide if their responses or lack there of were appropriate or not.....lol. Personally, I think they all were happy to see those pictures regardless as to whether they posted anything or not, but that would be just a presumption on my part because I don't know what's in their heads. I KNOW I was. I only targeted YOU because you sounded guilty AF by apologizing for not saying more earlier....LMBAO. You need apologize to Mel for injecting all of your far fetched silliness into her celebratory post. If she actually took offense to it....and she didn't....I WOULD have apologize. However: 1. Unlike you...I'm a MAN She's not going to take offense at certain things I say because she knows I'm teasing her in a flirtatious and not offensive way. But if YOU said the same things, YOU may have to end up apologizing though...lol Which leads me to my next point.... 2. Unlike you....I have common sense and instinctively know WHAT to joke and tease people about and WHAT NOT to joke and tease people about and I'm surgically careful to sometimes come close to the edge without crossing certain lines. YOU haven't perfected that art yet....lol. Which is also why I used to joke with and play rough with some of the other female posters like Sara and still maintain an amicable or neutral relationship with them while you ended up bitter enemies with them...lol. *In actuality, the only thing we both COULD apologize for....if Mel takes offense to it....if bantering back and forth with eachother in this thread. But me knowing the little bit I DO know about her, she probably finds it more amusing than annoying.....lol.

They got some for yours too. It's called Penicillin "Ok...next time, don't wait so long before you seek treatment honey."

aka Contrarian Contradiction But when Delano said she looked like a "naughty elf"....lol....I guess THAT was more appropriate huh??? You apparently thought THAT was funny and witty...lol. Anyway..... If you feel that yall have a "special bond" together, then why did you feel the need to apologize for not actually posting more of a response, earlier?

You have better things to do with your Social Security check too! But that don't stop you from spending it on lottery scratch-offs and Captain Morgan, lol.

I won't speak for Mel, but I'm sure an apology isn't necessary... We know why you couldn't formulate an immediate congratulatory response when you first saw those pictures....lol. We all know you, Cynique! It probably took you a half a day just to cool down and CALM down and get your thoughts together before you could type out ANY half-way decent response to her....lol.

When I first saw the title of this thread about the "Mann Act".....I thought it was addressed to Cynique. Sitting up here ACTING like a MAN, with her nasty self...lol

You're right, I apologize. I shouldn't compare them with you because those women were actually BORN female.

Not only do I "take the cake"..... But if YOU made the cake, I take it and feed it to my worst enemy....lol. And make a video of them eating it.

Which is why YOU missed your calling, as a stand-up comedian. CYNIQUE'S ONE NIGHT STAND "Hey yall..... Welcome to my 1 hour Comedy Special: Bee Hive Bustin' Is A Dirty Job, But Somebody Gotta Do It." You would have reached billionaire status the way they would have laughed at you....lol.