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I understand that. However as an individual, some men consider some things worth dying for....regardless of the outcome. You don't hear about these types of incidents happening too much to Arabs or Iranians. Yes, wars are fought with them...but not on an individual level like this. With all of the Arabs and Iranians living in the U.S....there's gotta be atleast 5 million...when was the last time you heard of the police running up in one of THEIR houses and killing a child or woman? There's a reason for that. I think most White men instinctively know that although they have the firepower and outnumber any Arab man in his house with his own family, they know they would have to kill HIM before harming his woman or his children. Period. They know this with almost certainty. The Arab man knows he will die...or there's a high chance he will. He knows that, but doesn't care....because he feels that some things are WORTH dying for as an individual...regardless as to what other people may choose to do. And I believe White men respect this.

frankster Well, if you have used it yourself.....can you say that it has increased YOUR creativity or productivity from a personal standpoint? If so, was this the case with each and every use? Most of the time but not all the time? Some of the time? At no time?

frankster Black connotes a racial categorization....I see racial categorization as a social convention It is. - if you live in a racist society then the society treats you according to how it categorizes you. True The US as a racist society states that if you have one drop of black blood then you are black True ...if you belong to the US society then that convention holds and is binding. Not necessarily. Just because society believe it, doesn't mean it's true. It could be that society was miseducated and ignorant. The idea of races is based on hierarchy. Currently, yes...but not necessarily. Race can be compared to flavors of ice cream. Obviously there are different flavors; that FACT can't be denied. Now if a person or people want to SELECT one flavor and claim it's better or tastes better than the other flavors...that doesn't eliminate the fact that there ARE distinct and different flavors of ice cream; it simply means that they are trying to enforce THEIR opinions about a particular flavor on others. neither are they white.....just humans various shades or hues of brown Ok, so do you agree with me that these mixed presenting people are NOT Black? Now the idea of race as biology has weaken....and so has racism with it. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Biology is science, which means it's true. If something is true....then it's just as true NOW as it was in the PAST.

Actually, it was the media who MADE Donald Trump in the first place. A lot of people came along saying the same shit he was saying. Pat Buchanan was one of them; but the media barely acknowledge him or his bid for the presidency, except when someone wanted to do an article on right-wing extremist politics. But Trump came along saying the craziest and zaniest shit...and CNN was the first to report every word of it to the American people. CeeLo Green said, "them crackaz thank they slick". They PROMOTED this right wing racist clown to the American people and helped get him in office, all the while CLAIMING to criticize him and his ideology. CNN gave him the most free advertisement of any President. Damn near every rally he gave in 2015 and 2016 was covered live and uncut by CNN and Fox News. They air his speeches live, then turn around and tell you he's a liar, divisive, and you shouldn't listen to him. Reminds me of Dee from What's Happening!! "Hey mama..... Roger gave me $5 to NOT tell you he was going to that party tonight. So I won't tell you that he went to that party tonight."

Yes, we need to start being more PRO-ACTIVE than RE-ACTIVE.

ProfD The murder of George Floyd sparked protests worldwide. Then, everybody took their signs, bottled water and went home. Back to their regularly scheduled program. True. During the riots of 2020 I remember specifically in places like Kentucky they were actually talking about giving Black people Reparations as a form of appeasment to get them to stop rioting and get off the streets. We had this society on it's knees ready to give us anything we wanted. Yet another opportunity squandered when after a few weeks they got quiet and went back to the couch to smoke that fake weed again. N8gglets are aware of the problems going on here. They're afraid and powerless. Well off n8gglets don't want to get involved because they have arrived. They also got SENSE. Which is one of the reasons they are able to live well off in the first place. They have sense enough to know that if they put themselves out there on the line...most niggaz on the street can't be counted on to back them up. From slavery through Civil Rights, I don't recall Black folks from anywhere else on the planet putting on the cape for us. I do see them trying to ride our coattails when it comes to flavor though. Stealing our music, style, fashion, lingo, etc. Well.... At the moment, I can't come up with an example myself...lol. If there ARE any, then it must not be TOO many...lol.

Well.... My first question is WHO will be conducting these "clinical trials" on the African population? Who's doing it directly and who's guiding it? If it's BY Africans and FOR Africans, I support it. But I don't support any clinical "trials" (yeah right....like you don't already know what the results will be when you inject people with something) being done to Africans by White folks, period. I don't give a damn if they're way the hell over in London guiding it while they got a bunch of niggas in rubber gloves, white coats, and masks down on the ground implementing it. If it came from THEM...I don't trust it. And if they conduct these medical trials and do this research, WHO will get the data? Will we as a people keep it amongst ourselves and use this information to help ourselves and cure our problems? Or will a bunch of Africans in skinny suits and glasses go running to "massa" with a stack of papers in their hands...... can't wait to show him all the information they gathered and what they discovered. "Ooooohh.......... I betcha big daddy would looooove to see this! Get him on the phone Grady!!!"

Why is this a surprise? Even back in the 60s Malcolm was talking about how SOME of those in the KKK traded in their white sheets for police uniforms. As recent as 2016 the FBI came out and TOLD US straight up that racists from groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi organizations were infiltrating the police force and I said that on here several times; and I also remember that YOU @Troy gave me flack over those statements. On atleast one occasion when I mentioned and even brought out articles and statements from the FBI that these racist groups were infiltrating the law enforcement departments all over the nation and that Obama and others need to do something about it....you said that wasn't proof or evidence or something of that nature. Your argument was that an "attempt" to do something wasn't the same as them actually doing it. So now that a stone faced White man comes along and tells you something that I've BEEN telling you, I guess you'll believe him.

This thread was spun off another one where the issue came up about men trying to be controlling. First of all I want TOTAL HONESTY.....not politically correct statements and feminist ideology. I personally believe in fairness and totally equal rights between men and women, however I still recognize that the two are different and those differences compliment eachother and should be celebrated. Having said that, whether it's by nature or by social engineering....men tend to be more aggressive and action taking than women. It's a fact...whether it's good or bad. So my questions are this............. As a woman would you rather be CONTROLLED by a man (I know this sounds like a no-brainer but....I'm asking for complete honesty and if atleast some women didn't want to be controlled they wouldn't be in those relationships), LEAD by a man, or neither? Also...and again, total honesty...which is more attractive and sexy to you, a man who CONTROLS you, LEADS you, or leaves you alone and allows you to totally live your life as a co-partner of his?

Interesting comments........... Troy Oh...women are different??? Thanks for telling something that I already know, lol. BTW...I don't know any WOMAN who would agree with their own son getting his captain cut off at 13. Something seems a little wrong with that sista. Most Black women I know, if they heard their sons like that...her and Daddy go have to have a conversation, lol. Chev and ProfD I haven't met many women who liked to be "controlled" but most women I know DO like it when men take the lead in situations. Most tend to be a little more shy and reserved when it comes to taking action.

When I think of Black WWII soldiers, I think of that movie by Spike Lee Miracle At St. Anna I miss that brother's film making. I know we have Jordan Peele and Tyler Perry, but they just don't hit that spot like Spike's joints.

ProfD Folks been tribal for a long time. Evidenced by the way people are grouped all over the planet based on race, country, culture and hairline and foreheads, etc. Facts. I'm dealing with Africans right now who won't even sit at the same table with each other over shit like skin tone, hair texture, religion, and other tribal differences. And they aren't playing either. I try to keep it cool, but a year ago I got angry before I knew it and had to tell one of them, "Don't bring that tribalist shit over here!" AfroAmericans as FBA/ADOS can delineate from Black folks who don't believe in reparations for America's original sin. If that's the case, we'd have to delineate from half of other AfroAmericans...who don't support our getting Reparations for one reason or another, lol. That being written, distractions at best, I don't see how colorism and degrees of Blackness benefit our people in dealing with the system of racism white supremacy. Truth Knowledge Facts ....are always beneficial. If not now, surely they will be later. If nothing else but establishing the TRUTH about who is and who is not Black or AfroAmerican, that in and of itself is a great benefit. Suppose we get Reparations next year.... If we didn't separate the TRUE AfroAmericans (especially descendants of Slaves) from fakers, charlatans, and White folks with dreadlocks simply CLAIMING to be AfroAmerican...what's to stop everybody from cashing in on money meant for us? frankster The division was created by racist.....so as to better keep people divided No. Those divisions and differences were created by The CREATOR. Just like males and females were created differently; people with different skin colors, hair textures, and facial features were also created differently. All the racists did was come up with THEIR OWN way of categorizing those differences that already existed. True....but they were still expose to the same oppression as all africans or blacks were. They were oppressed but I wouldn't say they experienced necessarily the "same" oppression because historically mixed races were GENERALLY treated better than the unmixed oppressed race that they were mixed with. Think house nigga vs field nigga, positions which were often decided upon based on skin tone and closeness to Whiteness. That being said, why should their experiences warrant them to be wear the same identity as us? Native Americans were also oppressed and victims of genocide....should we embrace THEM as Black too? A situation bought on by their peculiar circumstance....in order to "pass" they must distance themselves from that which they are. Some like Hoover took it too far.... Hoover hell....lol...that man wasn't Black and we shouldn't claim him as such. He was a racist sissy..that's all we know about him. His "degree of Blackness" is pure speculation that hasn't been proven bit. True.. Are they to be blamed? Did they create and maintain this system? They didn't create it but they were helping to maintain it and they certainly benefitted from it. Really maybe you haven't been playing close enough attention to recent political shenanigans around the southern border and fence/wall building. I've paid enough attention to it to come to the conclusion that they have no intention of building any type of "wall" down there NOR do they have any intention of keeping illegal immigrants out. To the contrary, the racist Establishment has a vested interest in BRINGING IN more illegal immigrants in order to replace the AfroAmerican population. Did you pay attention to how they are letting the lighter skinned immigrants walk on through but MADE SURE TO STOP THE BLACK HAITIANS and turn them around at the border?? You are dividing and disowning your own.... ???? Who is "my own"? If they aren't Black or AfroAmerican, they ARE NOT "my own" That's the very point of the division, to establish WHO is "our people" and who is not. division in our ranks leads to being conquered. Not necessarily. Based on my research and observations, low intelligence and poor technology is what leads to being conquered. Lest unite and work together against racism. Try it. Tell me how it works out. Maybe prisoners can work with the prison warden and corrections officers to "end" the oppression going on in prisons. Rodney King asked the question, can't we all just get along. Perhaps he has the answer now.

The more simplistic answer would be that surely a demon/devil would be driven to respond like that. We can laugh at the notion all we want and dismiss it as silly and move on to another explanation....but still, lol. Let us not overlook the obvious.

A less talked about event at the Olympics was how Brittney Griner held her hand over her heart and cried when the American National Anthem was being played. With all the problems that exist in the United States, there's nothing like being held captive in a Russia prison to make you appreciate how much better you have it here than many other places around the world. All we have to do is talk to some of these immigrants and observe how they treat us and interact with us to get a GLIMPSE of how Black folks are treated in their home countries.

frankster Appearances can be deceptive Exactly. Which is why people who claim to smoke weed to become "smarter" or more "creative" should be careful not to mistake the FEELING of being more creative with actual creativity itself. There are certain reward chemicals in your brain that often get activated when you consume a substance you're addicted to that make you FEEL like you've really accomplished a great task when you really haven't. I think Most Shaman mostly smoke.....tobacco I don't know a lot of Shamans so I'm not sure, but from my understanding tobacco (pure tobacco....not the shit found in a pack of Newports...lol) is one of MANY MANY herbs that they will smoke to achieve certain effects. How do you know that weed is not among the variety of herbs.....they use I don't. Marijuana is a tool if you do not know how to use it.....like tobacco it becomes a toy to be abused Marijuana can be a POISON if you don't know how to use it also. The question is, HOW should it be used? And WHO is qualified to teach/instruct others on it's proper use?

I've Never had the desire to be woman. I love being a man. Being a man (and a boy ofcourse...lol) has been what I know since birth, so I know how that feels. However, from time to time I've been very curious about how women think....lol. How do they arrive at the conclusions they arrive. How do they make their decisions. When they see and interact with men, what goes through their minds. I ask these questions from time to time but what inspired me to do a threat on it was a video I just watched where a sista was talking about transgendered people and she said if she saw a man coming up into the women's bathroom she'd run and look for the closest window to jump out of...lol. Perhaps she was just exaggerating, but as men...we pretty much wouldn't have THAT type of reaction to a woman coming up in our bathroom; but I know a lot of women would definitely be frightened. I recognize we have the same basic emotions, but it appears that women tend to be more sensitive or perhaps their emotions are more intense. Just, how does it FEEL being a woman or how is your THOUGHT PATTERN as a woman? I know a woman FEELS soft physically, but do you feel "soft" mentally or emotionally? Do you have to try extra hard to be as assertive as you think men are? Even being pregnant and giving birth. It can't be too comfortable, yet women still do it and seem "driven" to do it. How does it feel????

I've heard them speak out for us and comment on our plight and even hold demonstrations. I remember back a few years ago when there were major protests going on in the U.S. not only did a lot of Black British take to the streets in protest but a lot of Black Israelis started hitting the streets and confronting White Israelis over racism in Israel saying they were inspired by Black Americans. They do what they can. But can we expect others to come over and do for us what so many of our people aren't even doing for themselves? Most of these niccaz don't even know what's going on RIGHT HERE in America in their own backyard. Whether we should get involved in what's going on over there is one thing. However what's so disappointing is the IGNORANCE of so many of our people of what's going on over there. It's not that our people simply don't care, but many of them don't even KNOW. And it's like....how can you NOT know what's being talked about all over the news for the past week? What are you busy doing? I know we have to live our lives and pay the bills, however.....what are so many of our people so busy engaged in that basic news seems to escape them and they are clueless as to what is being talked about as major headlines for the past week? But to your point..... I can't get angry at the Black folks in England or Nigeria or Israel for not putting on the cape and coming over here to help us when most of the niccaz RIGHT HERE in America who are the very victims of racism ain't doing a damn thing to help themselves and are clueless as to what's happening to their own women and children.

frankster no I am not... Based on your interpretation of colorism....it is a reasonable question to ask You didn't ask a question, you made an intellectually dishonest statement by declaring those San people "brown instead of black". Choosing to focus on their skin color rather than their African racial identity as some sort of weird attempt to confuse the argument. I know that is what you meant....but I felt it necessary to point out that these relatively light skinned people are native to Africa south of the Sahara Well thank you for pointing that out. Yes...Race is ascribe to various biological features especially as an aggregate with other features common to an ethnicity or geographic region. Thank you for expounding on something you claimed you didn't believe in the existence of...lol. Race is absolutely real. You can disagree with it, but to DENY it is unacceptable. Genotype is what is pass on from parent to child....Which gene is expressed depends on diet and geography - Epigenetics You're not wrong, but you're jumping from one end of the spectrum to the other. My point is, when you're talking about the EXPRESSION of genes..you're talking about PHENOTYPE. Africans and peoples who present as black are still under threat from White racism. Correct. What we choose to identify as or NOT identify as is of little important to the White racist, because they can clearly see who you are....which is not them...and will practice racism accordingly. How or what Black presenting people identify as is of very little importance to them. Basically it is a further dividing of the oppress...so as to weaken and foster internal strife and turmoil. Ok, so you're ASSUMING that all victims of White racism are or atleast SHOULD be united. You assume they even CAN unite. Brown Arabs Yellow Asians And Brown Latinos Are also victims of White racism like AfroAmericans and Africans, yet THEY TOO are racist themselves and see themselves as separate from us. So simply being a victim and fellow oppressee of White racism isn't enough to strengthen or unify people, let alone grant victory over racist oppressors. The whole idea of Race is a biological lie.... It is a social construct introduce to divide human beings along lines of their differences....so as to oppress use and abuse for purposes as of greed a section of humanity. You're overlooking the simple. Race is CATEGORIZATION. It's a way of categorizing people based on their phenotypical difference. Phenotypical difference are based on GENES which are biological. You can disagree with the process or whether or not it should be done all you want, but you can't call it a "lie" because it's not a lie, it's an actual fact. Most humans are 99.9% identical in their genetic make up.... Ok? There is an extremely close genetic make-up between men and women also, that mean SEX/GENDER doesn't exists and is a biological lie? I posted people of the same Khoi San people who treat their hair....to demonstrate that what they have is a afro hair Please....peppercorn or peasy hair you posted is mostly a result of washed untreated uncombed hair Untreated uncombed??? I've known a lot of people who've gone months without their hair being untreated an uncombed...but it doesn't bead up and nap up like that....lol. Look at the average homeless Black man on the street with kinky hair that hasn't been washed or treated in probably years, I bet you won't find anything on his head looking like those San people...lol. "I know I ain't washed up in a while.... but i KNOW my shit ain't go look like that!" The most that will happened to the average curly or kinky hair that remains unwashed or untreated is that it will grow out and mat up or turn to dreads, but it will never get NAPPY or BEADY. That's a genetic trait. Their hair is beaded and nappy by NATURE, not because it was "untreated" or uncombed.

frankster I do not believe in Races so why would I accept the idea of any human being being 3/5.... Because you earlier said this woman was Black because "society" said she was. If society...by your standard...sets the definitions for people's identity and you agree with it (apparently), then it follows that you would also agree with society (at that time atleast) declaring that Black Americans are only 3/5 human. The choice have been made....I am one of the Oppressed Oppressor and Oppressed are relative terms depending on the environment and situation. In the contemporary system of the United States, Caucasians are the oppressors and AfroAmericans are the Opressed. In one of my neighbor's houses down the street, HE is the oppressor and the mice in his house that he is trying to trap and kill are the oppressed. At the temp service down the street, the temp workers are oppressed and most of the supervisors they work under are the oppressors. It all depends on who's in charge and in a rulership position and who is submitting to them. Not all Rulers are Oppressive....heavy is the head that wears the crown True. However nobody who is being oppressed is a ruler. And that's a RULE, lol. I'd rather be in a RULERSHIP position myself, rather than roll the dice on whether or not I get an oppressive or non-oppressive ruler. Calling and recognizing that everybody is human is a start. How is questioning someone's race...questioning their humanity? (Unless..like you...they support the 3/5th decision, lol.) Presenting mixed people are just as human as Black or White people. They just aren't Black. Just like I'm just as human as a woman, doesn't give me the right to identify as one. Getting arrested and going to jail is a protest. Actually...getting arrested and going to jail is simply GETTING ARRESTED and GOING TO JAIL. You don't necessarily protest a damn thing. Well Racist are still trying to find a scientific rational or biological basis for race....so far they have not found anything that stands up to scientific inquiry and rigors of proving. Racists don't need to. They believe in the existence of race and weaponize it regardless of the biology or science of it. You can quote science or deny it all you want, a White racist will STILL see you as different from them based on how you look whatever you want to call it. As of today Race remain a scientific and biological fiction. If it's fiction, why do doctors and scientists recognize it and formulate medicines and write articles with race as a factor? They obviously not only recognize it but also understand it....even if YOU refuse to, lol.

ProfD Man, your first two pictures remind me of an exchange that took place between a woman at work from Tanzania who showed me a picture of her when she was going back home to see her husband. I guess she was trying to impress me or something as we were talking about make-up and looks and what women do. She is actually darker than the woman on the left, pretty smooth skinned sista with her hair braided and wrapped up for work. She showed me a video and it looked so much different, she was as light as Jasmine Guy with her lower hair straight and with blonde highlights! Braided at the top towards the roots but straight as Chinese at the bottom with blonde highlights and she's flinging it all over the place as she's riding with somebody on her way to see her husband. Face yellow. Even her neck and hands were yellow down to her chest. The only thing that reminded me of her were her facial features. I said, "What the fuck is this?????" She looked up at me smiling...eyes all juicy...saying she was on her way to see her husband. She initially assumed I was surprised in a "good" way at how she essentially changed races. She found out 5 minutes later....lol. She couldn't believe that as a man I actually found her 10 times more attractive/prettier as the dark skinned sista that she was in that video.

Don't feel too bad, most Black folks I've talked to don't know about the riots. Just like most Black folks I've talked to didn't know about the murder of our sista Sonya in Illinois. I'm not surprised at how much our people DON'T know, anymore. It would seem like race-riots where mobs of angry White men are roaming around attacking Black and Asian people....even though it's in England...would still be HEADLINE NEWS for most AfroAmericans given how close we are politically and culturally to Europe and especially England. It's the West. It's on all the major news networks, and Black people in the UK are all over social media crying and begging for help and confused about what's happening. But in good old U.S.A......DeVonte and Tanesha don't know a thing about it, and probably don't give a damn. Too busy on the couch playing video games and smoking weed I guess. "Riots in England? Square bid'ness? That's where Slick Rick 'n em come from right?" That is....until they get a knock on THEIR front door. Then shit starts to get real.

frankster Human Beings are biological creatures.... all are homo sapiens sapiens AfroAmericans are political and social creatures.....The idea of 3/5 humans was a political idea and race is a social idea That being said..... The fact remains that "society" believed it and supported it. Just like "society" sees this woman is Black. If you agree that this woman is Black because "society" says it, then it would follow that you'd agree with "society" on other matters also such as the 3/5 idea. The moment you begin to divide people....you become an oppressor of those who are divide out they become the "Other" Well..... Would you rather be the oppressOR or the oppressEE (is that a word???) oppressED? Take your pick. Because in this world, either YOU have power and are ruling over somebody or you DON'T have power and somebody is ruling over YOU. Me personally, I'd rather be a RULER than RULED over. What if they experience prejudicial and discriminatory oppression because society deems them to be black? It's a testimony to how blind and ignorant your beloved "society" that you put so much trust in, really is. The goal should be to stamp out anti-Black racism. Calling "everybody" Black doesn't accomplish this goal one bit any more than purposely getting arrested and going to jail solves the problem of police brutality. By the fact that races do not exist as a biological truth.. ...which is not a fact. So we can forget the rest of the assertion. Chevdove I don't agree though, that just because Harris referred to her adoptive mother as beautiful translates to her being a beauty standard. It wasn't Harris who referred to her mother as beautiful but the mixed raced woman in the video originally posted, who did. Nothing wrong with a person calling their mother beautiful. I would refer to my own Mother as beautiful. However what was telling was HOW she referred to her being beautiful. She didn't just say her beautiful mother but referred to her being Swedish/German before calling her beautiful. Suggesting that her beauty was tied to those ethnic roots. I know though, that we African Americans do have that problem in our background. Ofcourse. And we need to reeducate ourselves as stamp it out....like we did in the 60s and 70s. Our community used to be VERY color-struck before the 60s, but then along came the Black Pride and Black Love movements and dark skinned became beautiful to use again. Along with Jet Beauty and Essence, we fell inlove with our Blackness. Most other cultures around the world haven't had that yet, so many of them still worship white skin as the ideal standard. I am not sure how to answer that question. Don't feel too bad, there doesn't seem to be a question there to answer....lol.

frankster True because its a trait....a phenotype is a collection of traits - curly or coily hair type These people are definitely not black.....but brown They are Africans We are all Africans and Africans have the widest genetic diversity....these are some of the most unmixed peoples You're being intellectually dishonest with that statement. Almost NOBODY is "Black" if you want to use actual skin pigment as the standard as to who is "Black" and who isn't. Most people on the planet are various shades of brown. No, when we say "Black" we are talking about those of Sub-Saharan African origin, and I think you know that. In other words these traits are in all humans.....just to varying levels and degrees of expression - Genotype Ok...to different levels and degrees of expression. Depending on what level they are at, is how they are racially classified. BTW....the expression of it is not "genotype" but PHENOTYPE. Yes....but only after their is no chance of reconciliation Who determines how many "chances" are left, and also who determines what constitutes as a "chance" for reconciliation. The division you are recommending is more of an abandonment of people facing or enduring oppression in their time of need. There "time of need"???? 1. Who "needs" to identify as a particular race? Germany has been defeated and the Nazis no longer pose a major threat, so who is threatening people with harm if they don't identify as a particular race? 2. How is LYING to people about what race they are or allowing THEM TO LIE about what race they identify as...helping them in their time of need? Abandoning people in their time of need is truly a despicable act... You must not be a parent of an adult child, especially a spoiled/selfish/undisciplined one, lol. If you were, you'd know sometimes strategic abandonment is one of the BEST things you can do for them. In the picture you posted of Africans who are not black but brown....would you divide out/against these san people? I've already addressed the question as to the racial use of the word "Black". Those type of classification and categorization has always been used as a means to oppress So has the sword and other weapons. Does that mean that we shouldn't take control over them and use them for our own good? Chevdove CURLY or COILY HAIR anyone 'race' can express that trait, but NOT nappy hair. Excellent observation. Which is why I posted the picture of the San people I posted above as opposed to the pictures that frankster posted. My picture showed people with truly NAPPY hair. Very tightly coiled. Unlike the pictures he show of people with merely curly hair that can be found among Europeans as well as Africans. Strangely enough, you don't find any type of kinky or curly hair among Native Americans or East Asians. I read that her mother and father separated when she was five years old and that it was a bitter separation and so, her mother raised her as a single mother. Tough! Yeah... One more reason why I would have rather had Michelle Obama instead of Kamala. On top of having a White husband, when you read her story....it's similar to Barack Obamas of having to be raised by their non-Black mother because their Black daddy "ran off" somewhere. The imagery is just not what it should be. ProfD Her father identifies as a Jamaican-American. He's Black just like Bob Marley was despite complexion. You know Bob Marley was mixed race, though. Kamala....although better than Trump....is just not Black enough for me, lol.

@frankster I'm not sure why you would find the concept of "degrees of Blackness" so much more divisive. It's not like AfroAmerica hasn't ALREADY been divided since it's inception by degrees of Blackness. Most mixed and light skinned people have historically enjoyed privileges that the majority of our people weren't privy to, whether they asked for those privileges or not. In the past most mixed and light skinned people saw themselves not only as different than other AfroAmericans but in many ways BETTER than other AfroAmericans. Today this isn't so much the case AS MUCH as it was in the past...but it's still there in many circles. Infact, many AfroAmericans THEMSELVES often hold mixed and very light skinned people in higher esteem, especially when it comes to looks and sexual attraction. How many dark and brown skinned brothaz can be found chasing after the closest redbone in the vicinity? Even back in elementary school (I'm talking 1st and 2nd grade even) I can remember light skinned girls had their own little clique because so many boys were slobbering over them and treating them special. How many parents can be found favoring their lighter skinned and mixed children? To say that drawing clear lines of demarcation between Black people and non-Black people will only further divide the Black community is like saying identifying and separating illegal immigrants from Americans will only further divide America. Uh...duhhh...they AREN'T Americans in the first place, so it doesn't divide America. Likewise, identifying who IS and who ISN'T Black doesn't divide the Black community but actually strengthens it because you no longer have "questionable" people posing as Black in our ranks ready to "code switch" and identify with whatever is convenient at the time. The divisions are already there. Perhaps as AfroAmericans we should take the reins in OUR hands and decide for ourselves along what lines our community will be divided and categorized by.

frankster How do you know....it cannot make you smarter? By looking at most of the people who smoke it...lol. Most of the people I see who smoke a lot of weed are either of normal intelligence or dumb as a box of crayons. And the few smart people I know who do smoke it GET temporarily dumber when they smoke it, lol. Thats going against centuries of Shamanic Ancestral Wisdom of nearly every culture. Most Shaman don't smoke marijuana. Not sure where you got this information They smoke a variety of herbs from Africa and the Americas that put them into direct contact with the Spirit Realities and other Realities. Marijuana doesn't do that. It is in this "feel different" state that wisdom is often sought and found.. Wisdom...which is the proper and wholistic understanding of people or things or events...is usually gained through experience and age in the framework of sound intelligence. Not by smoking marijuana or drinking a beer. Most people who smoke marijuana simple THINK they're getting smarter because of how it's making them feel. Just like drunk people who THINK they can drive....because they feel they can. They aren't gaining knowledge or wisdom from smoking weed, and the proof of that is the fact that they aren't able to accomplish anything high that they couldn't do when they were sober; and in most cases can't accomplish as much.