Pioneer1

Are you sure you weren't communicating with a demon?

Rodney campbell Lol....no, it's not just talk. We actually need to do BOTH. We eventually need our own independent society, but I don't believe most AfroAmericans are ready for self governing right now. Many are....but most aren't. So perhaps we should take advantage of the opportunity to practice it in increments by holding positions of power and managing small independent communities within the nation.

Cynique After all of these years I can't believe that I never paid any attention to the symbols at the top of this site; the bell and the envelope notifying me that someone is trying to make contact with me. Probably because no one has been TRYING to "make contact" with your silly ass...... ProfD if/when I decide to run up there for Harold's fried chicken Now Harold's fried chicken is the shit! I used to go to the one on South Stoney Island Ave.

Rodney campbell I agree. To a larger extent it is the PARENTS' responsibility to see to it that their children grow up properly educated and well rounded. Ideally we'd have a proper public educational system in society to assist with this, but even if we don't....it's still our responsibility to properly raise our children to be productive and successful adults. That's the main job of a parent. One of the problems with this society is that most of the parents themselves are ignorant, uneducated, and highly dysfunctional. Infact, you have 2 or 3 generations of dysfunction going back to the 60s!

ProfD I'd be curious to see how Umar handles himself in a cell or on the block or in the yard. I'm not sure if they would be a fair assessment because a lot of the dudes who are locked up are essentially ANIMALS. Regardless of their size they are very violent, anti-social, psychotic, and suffer from many other psychological problems. Not all obviously. Not even most...but many. Certainly a higher percentage than you'll find in most communities on the outside. We can't compare a RELATIVELY normal man such as Dr. Johnson to some of those beasts, nor should we expect for him to be able to handle himself like one. The brotha has a gift for running his mouth. Women impressed by an articulate Black man run the gamut from highly educated to hood boogers and everything in the middle. Facts....lol The lonely hearts club women just a want a piece of man...a dude with a pulse. Those types of women will actually support a broke azz n8gglet. And on top of that..... There is a LARGE percentage of those type of women in our community. So it's not hard to see how even a Beta or Gamma male could pull off a polygamous relationship quite successfully. Troy Is what he says? I’d be unable to determine the exact number? Yeah, that's what he's said multiple times. I haven't seen them but it's his claim. I’ve never heard Umar speak in person, so I’ll take you at your word that the sisters flock to him. What do you think the quality of the ladies running up on Umar is like? Are they highly educated? Next time he's speaking in your area.....he goes down to Florida atleast once a year...go check him out, lol. Both men and women are running up to him to ask him questions after the lecture, and women are running up to him giving him their numbers, trying to get hugs, trying to get pictures taken, etc. Typical groupie shit. Not sure about the quality of the women but if they are in a Black Consciousness event they can't be TOO stupid. Most thug-girls and dope addicts and street women don't attend those type of events....lol. Many of the women who INVITE Dr. Umar to their venues to speak are certainly highly educated.

The problem with the Hindu Vedas is...they can't be trusted because they allegedly originated with the Aryan invaders of India. The Aryans were the racist Caucasians who were responsible for raping and destroying the mighty Indus Valley civilization. I've heard others who argues that the Vedas existed before the Aryans arrived. But they were in the minority.

Stefan I just gave you the fact. It's up to you to accept them or not. The word "slavery" is derived from the term for the Slavic people of Eastern Europe. Plain and simple. Take it or leave it.....but it would be WISE to put education over ego.

"Uh huh......GOTCHA!"

Even jurists have differing opinions from eachother of what constitutes "proof" versus what is mere "evidence" but doesn't cross the threshold.

Lol....I'm not "desperate" for it, but I enjoy it. Why else do you think I actually post on this message board? If I didn't want any attention, I'd just be a lurker. Now....... Is there anything WRONG with wanting attention?

I tend to categorize people....so in my opinion not all Black Republicans are the same. I have more respect for the older Black Republicans who were more Conservative and traditionalist in their political and social ideology than these blind Trump-supporting Black Republicans today. Most of whom smoke weed, talk trash, and live dysfunctional lives while promoting Trump. Atleast in the old days I could count on the traditionalist and Conservative Black people to promote solid family structures, not be afraid to criticize homosexuality (although I'm not quite as against it as I was when I was religious), and were very critical of the moral decline in the AfroAmerican community. We don't have a lot of THOSE type of Black Republicans today. People like Tony Brown, Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell.......TRUE Conservatives. This is why I say we as AfroAmericans need to form OUR OWN party and promote OUR OWN values instead of falling in line with the Democrats or Republicans who don't have our best interests in mind.

Troy There is no confusion...... All proof is evidence...but not all evidence is proof. -Simple Proof is a certain TYPE of evidence that establishes enough certainty.

So slaves shouldn't be able to rise up and kill their masters? Victims of rape and molestation who get strong enough to defend themselves shouldn't be allowed to kill their attackers? The SUPREME BEING allowed death in this world for a reason. Don't be fooled by the FAKE philosophical arguments of White so-called Intellectuals who don't even believe in the fake moralist garbage THEY assert. The same White man sitting in a chair in a sport coat with patches on the elbow railing against Capitalism and greed has SEVERAL bank accounts, a big house, trust funds for HIS children, etc....but he'll sit there and lament over how "greed" has taken over humanity. Please.......

Stefan You just seem overly emotional and sensitive for the typical man....lol. Calm down bro....it ain't that serious.

One line says Evidence IS Proof Another line says evidence has to be "sufficient enough" before it IS Proof. Somewhat contradictory. Different dictionaries can have different definitions for the very same word. Websters dictionary defines evidence as that which SUPPORTS or FURNISHES proof....but it doesn't necessarily equal truth.

Stefan We're not talking about DEFINITIONS.....we're talking about ETYMOLOGY. The ORIGINS of words and how they're related.

I'd say we've come a long way. Death by guns is certainly more merciful than death by swords, clubs, and stones....as practiced thousands of years ago.

Stefan Man, are you gay? Just curious......

Troy He says he has atleast 2 daughters. I've seen him speaking at several events. Trust me.....lol....women do FLOCK to him in droves. The dude is physically large and powerful and he's smart. I'm not sure why yall think the man would be unattractive to women or not have a commanding presence among men. Being a con artist or hustler (if one believes he's one) doesn't take THOSE "Alpha" qualities away. It's like what we were telling Stefan about Mike Pence. Just because you don't like the man and think he's up to no good....doesn't mean he's not smart, lol. Same with Umar Johnson. Even if you think he's a bamboozling con artist...that man clearly is articulate, physically powerful, and intelligent enough to earn a doctorate and become a principal of a school. He's not exactly some loud mouth brutha shaving lumber with an orange apron on at Home Depot....lol So he IS effective enough to do what he WANTS to do when he WANTS to do it.

I don't agree with that definition. If evidence was the same as proof, then why are so many people found NOT GUILTY even when mere "evidence" is presented against them? Infact, some "evidence" is thrown out by the judge for various reasons. Going by that definition, the judge is wrong because he threw out "proof". I believe evidence are things that SUPPORT and HELP to establish proof.....but it's not necessarily proof itself.

Ok.... So who are the Tricks being turned out????

Stefan Clown, the word SLAVE came from SLAV. Both words are related.

Knock yourself out....... What else does a loser like you have to do with his time?

Right now I'm not focused on his MORALITY or his PSYCHOLOGICAL MAKE UP. So whether he's honest or a con-artists is irrelevant.....as far as I'm concerned RIGHT NOW Whether he's mentally disturbed or has a personality disorder is irrelevant....as far as I'm concerned RIGHT NOW. The question is...IS he an Alpha-male. You two say an Alpha-male is not only a leader but an EFFECTIVE leader. I personally would argue that not all Alphas are "effective" simply because most of them aren't perfect. I say what makes an Alpha is SIMPLE.....aggression and drive. No need to overly complicate it and add extra virtues on to it. They tend be aggressive and highly driven. Doesn't mean they're smart enough or wise enough or have the other virtues necessary to be effective in their tasks. But now, going back to his psychological make-up, how about this....... ProfD, you say if Umar was a real Alpha-male he would have had that school up and running already. But what if.....as you suggested in another thread....he was simply using the school as a HUSTLE or CON to keep the money coming in? Then his plan WOULD be effective, you just didn't know what his plan REALLY WAS.....which was not to build a school but keep a hustle going. I'm not saying this is the case, but consider it. Or do you believe a con artist and hustler can't be an Alpha?

Smart is simply having knowledge Wise is knowing how and when to PROPERLY APPLY the knowledge you have. BULL SHIZNIT.....lol. First of all you NEVER heard a White man talk like me in your life, and you know it. Second, if you REALLY thought I was a White man....your "sell-out and run down to Australia" behind would be GETTING ALONG with me, the way you worship White culture and knowledge....lol. You're just taking advantage of the fact that I don't show my image in order to raise doubts in people's minds about my identity. If I showed my picture and people saw that I was Black, THEN you'd be on to making up some other garbage to try and get the same result. A smear tactic that hasn't worked and won't work. If you were "wise" you'd know that....lol.